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Sunday, July 03, 2005

26th District- "Ouch!"

Outlook: Leans Republican

Just picked this up off the Lowell Fulk website.

Letter of the Day 6/30/05

Lohr Should Debate

OK, I ask my Republican neighbors and friends to help me understand. Matt Lohr, professional speaker, refuses to debate Lowell Fulk, professional farmer.

Is it the issues that Matt doesn’t feel deserve debating: education, public safety, economic development and preservation, agriculture, or elder care (topics proposed by Mr. Fulk)?

Or, possibly, does Mr. Lohr not have the time in his busy travel schedule to fit in a few debates for the delegate seat he seeks?

A Republican, a professional speaker, refuses to debate a Democratic farmer in a Republican stronghold. Help me understand, I honestly don’t get it

Don Roderick


We have said it before, and will say it again. Lowell Fulk is the best Democratic candidate in the state. The only reason he isn't crushing Republican Matt Lohr is the 2-1 Republican edge in this district. Lohr is favored if he can keep the status quo.

But to keep the status quo he can't let Fulk get shots in like this. Matt Lohr should agree to any and all debates with Lowell Fulk, which will be attended by only a few people who have already decided how to vote.

If Lohr's team was at all bright they would realize that they want to spend as much time as possible in empty rooms debating issues with Lowell Fulk, rather than having Fulk out in front of voters.

Depending on the finance reports on July 15th we may make this a tossup.


At 7:41 PM, Anonymous Lynda said...

You are forgetting that the press will be there recording their answers- if Matthew can answer on his own and on the spot.

At 11:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

If Lohr's team were bright at all?
Let me tell you a story about how bright the Lohr team is...
The Matthew Lohr campaign calls a news conference and only Lohr shows up... Not even any media! Nice job team Lohr! Your wife and daughter have to be there, they have no choice! Your portly campaign manager dancing around with a cell phone to her ear didn't seem to help much. Your young photographer certainly didn't get any good photos for your mail or web promotion. Where was your big gun support? My count from my vantage point at the Daily Grind was you, your wife, your daughter, your campaign manager, and your photographer.
And to add icing to the cake, the fact that you can't even avoid setting off your own car alarm, and then can't even figure out how to stop the horn from blowing, simply highlights the question: "Why are you even here?"

At 11:16 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Two reasons why Lohr won't debate.

1. As the eminent domain issue hit, Matthew Lohr was quoted in the Daily News Record as saying he would support legislation that restricted this action for commercial purposes. Meanwhile, Lowell Fulk had already assembled a team of lawyers and experts to determine what legislation he could introduce to prevent this horrible ruling in the Commonwealth.--July 1, 2005 Daily News Record.

2. When asked about porn filters on public library computers Matthew Lohr said he would support any legislation Mark Obenshain offered to limit access through public internet connections. Meanwhile, Lowell Fulk had already implemented such measures as a member of the school board eight years ago and even offered advice to Mark Obenshain on how it could be accomplished.—July 2, 2005 Daily News Record

He is going to need a big band-aid for that ouchie. No wonder the guy doesn't want to debate. In fact there is no need for him to show up anyway. He could just send a recording saying, "I agree" and "I am a Republican." It would be just as informational.

At 12:59 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

A Lowell Fuld win would be one of the boggest upsets in Virginia political history. Yes he is a great candidate, better than Lohr.

The bottom line is this: When was the last time a Democrat won a "state" election in the valley? A long time ago and they were incumbents barely holding on before they eventually lost.

It is too early to give this race as much play as it is getting until someone can definitively show how Fulk overcomes a 65% Republican district.

At 1:57 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I dunno. To answer 11:00pm anon. Lohr's team isn't very bright. In fact, they're really straight off the goat farm. They were milking goats and then somebody was like, "heyyyy buddyy?!!? you wannt run some voter stuff?" and then the guy was like "what's that?" and then the lohr manager waslike "well voter stuff means some campaigns and stuff" and then lohrs manager stopped milking the cow and starting writing the field plan.

At 7:45 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is a curious phenomenon occurring in this race. As I drive around I'm seeing bumper stickers that say things like "Republicans for Fulk" and "Gun Owners for Fulk" and "Farmers for Fulk." When I look on the State Board of Elections list of donors I notice some very prominent Republicans donating to the Fulk campaign. I also see rather large contributions from people with no history of donating to political campaigns at all. Interesting...

At 8:28 AM, Anonymous Not Matthew said...

Someone has been checking up on Matthew Lahr:

At 10:06 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

'Not Larry Sabato' is a counterproductive web log with innuendoes and rumors.

Posting a DN-R letter-to-the-editor, published by a committee member of the Rockinghman County Democrats.

Shame on you! NLS for not checking the FACTS.

Because Lohr and Fulk have both agreed to a series of community sponsored debates, such as the local 'Family Forum' debate.

At 10:42 AM, Blogger Not Larry Sabato said...

Last anonymous,

I'm not agreeing. I am saying it is a VERY effective letter to the editor.

At 1:41 PM, Anonymous not a manure spreader said...

After GW and the Coach visit Rockingham, Democratic candidate Fulk is toast.

At 2:09 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

A "series" of debates? Really Audrey(anon 10:06), Matthew agreeing to a debate in front of what might possibly be the most friendly group to him that exists is hardly agreeing to a "series"... While we have your attention Audrey, why won't "Matthew the Professional Speaker" agree to debate Lowell on the issues?

At 9:17 PM, Blogger Not Larry Sabato said...

I deleted the last comment on Dave Albo- you'll get your chance to bash him soon enough! Let's stay on Fulk-Lohr.

At 9:57 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's too bad Fulk's campaign manager, Davis Walsh is one of the most incompetent workers in Virginia. I'm surprised he hasn't taken a page from the Tribbett playbook and sent his candidate out in the General Lee.

At 10:41 PM, Anonymous Ben Tribbett said...

How did you get a copy of my playbook?!?!?!?

Seriously- I want to know what playbook is putting together all this Ben bashing all over the blogosphere!

At 10:53 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Audrey (anon 9:57pm),
Don't take your frustration about having a weak candidate out on Davis. Not his fault that you have Gumby to try to elect to office.

At 1:16 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is Fulk's campaign manager really like Tribbett? Comparing someone to Ben is similar to comparing someone to Hitler.

At 9:06 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fulk's an idiot. He copies the Kaine "debate" line of attack and gets his supporters excited. It's a phony attack, maybe effective, but phony nonetheless. There are going to be about 10 debates and more joint appearances in this race. Glenn Weatherholtz, hardly an accomplished debater, ate Fulk's lunch 2 years ago. Fulk lost 2 years ago by 10 points -- hardly the razor thin margin he has been credited with. That will be his high water mark

At 9:23 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Look folks. Setting aside the spin from a few vocal Dems and Reps, and a couple of wacked out libertarians, this one's really not that complicated. Here's why Lohr easily wins the conservative 26th:
1. Marriage Amendment: Fulk opposes, Lohr supports.
2. Taxes: Lohr promises not to raise, Fulk supported 2004 tax increase and won't promise to oppose future tax increases.
3. Abortion: Fulk pro choice, Lohr pro life.
and, oh yea,
4. Demographics: even Mark Warner lost 60-40; Fulk led the Kerry campaign, for which he garnered and impressive 32% of the votes.

At 2:27 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is a big difference between being a 'great guy' and being a 'great candidate.' Fulk may be the former but he is not the latter. 5 will get you 10 that the bulk of the posts on this blog are Fulk supporters, and the he spends an innordinate amount of time encouragin this.

Next question, why would Fulk have an incompetant manager? Since he's supposed to be the DPVA darling, why have they not ensured that he has the best darn manager that the political operative world has to offer? Maybe because Fulk would rather have a know-nothing that he can push around and control rather than somebody who can put the screws to him and tell him what to do.

Calling for a 'series of debates' in the typical strategy for challenger candidates and/or candidates who know they're behind. A frontrunner or a candidate where the voter registration heavily favors him or her doesn't bother with that stuff. How many voters in Melrose or Fulks Run are sitting around trying to decide whether or not to vote GOP?

What Fulk did in 2003 was probably his high water mark.

At 3:02 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

HEY NLS!!! Where's that "scandalous" Lohr tape of him uttering something (GASP!!!) critical of JMU!!!???
Still trying to get a copy? I guess the Fulk campaign has chalked that one up as a lead baloon, so don't hold your breath.

At 4:49 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Isn't Matt Lohr a motivational speaker? Can he convince my son to stop smoking the doobies?

At 12:15 AM, Anonymous saywhat? said...

2003 was hardly Fulk's high-water mark. Losing by only 10 percent to a Republican incumbent in the Shenandoah Valley was quite an achievement. Everyone knows this -- even the Republicans who deny it publicly.

People like Fulk and consider him smart. People like Lohr, but don't think he's so smart. He is the young, Obenshain-picked, back-up candidate to Weatherholtz's aide John Elledge, who proved too strident to win. That an Elledge candidacy had to be cut down proves that Obenshain knows that the 26th won't automatically vote Republican, if presented with a Democrat they like and trust.

I'm not saying Fulk will win, but it is very, very possible and won't be quite the upset that some would like to think. H-burg is changing with a more diverse, less parochial population. Rockingham is still a tough nut for Democrats, but not quite as full of knee-jerk Republicans as it once was.

I have no idea who in earlier posts used words like "portly," "idiot" "Gumby," but you're not doing your candidate any favors with the name-calling. Grow the heck up!

And anonymous 2:27, how very sad that you don't think a frontrunner needs to "bother" with debates and discussion of the issues. The arrogance of that stance speaks volumes about what's wrong with so many in the General Assembly. They just can't be bothered with real issues or real people. They're too busy sponsoring droopy drawers bills.

At 1:34 AM, Blogger Politicl.Animal said...

You know me, I'm biased, I also have my name attached to this, so all y'all who left anon. comments should hush up.

Davis is NOT incompetent, he is one of the brightest workers the DPVA has under the age of 25. He did, however, complete his spring semester at W&M and then took a short trip to Europe before returning to run the campaign. The assistant campaign manager, Annalia, graduated while starting a new job AND running the campaign in Davis' absence.

As far as I know, Audrey has been working for Lohr from the get-go.

So don't knock what you don't know.

Besides, who wouldn't want a chance to take a spin in the General Lee?

At 10:09 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know some of the Fulk campaign people and they tell me that Fulk repeatedly reminds them NOT to engage in blog arguements or attacks. His campaign certainly seems to be more focused and better organized than many I have been watching including his opponent's so it would appear that Fulk's critics on this thread are simply trying to spin the facts. Again.

At 9:21 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I bet Fulk advises them not to engage the blogosphere. If his staff's web rhetoric is as weak as Walsh then they should stay far far away from the blogs.

At 11:33 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I actually thought "Gumby" was pretty funny. Have you looked at Lohr? And like a stick of gum, he can be molded and twisted into whatever Mark Obenshain wants him to be.
But the last poster was correct. Fulk is done, Walsh is weak, so the Lohr team can relax and maybe go to Italy on vacation. Nothing for you to worry about as several of the above contributors have pointed out. Fulk has no hope of winning so you guys don't even have to try. So go ahead and take a nap, no worries. Oh yes, nice turnout at your press conference and the parade. Hint: People are noticing that you're copying Fulk, try to think of something of your own.

At 10:30 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I keep reading Walsh is weak and incompetent. I've been watching and that not what I see, but I want to ask you all. How is Walsh weak? What has he done that makes him weak and why do you think he is weak? I'm just wondering.

At 3:33 PM, Blogger David Briggman said...

Lohr's weak and, obviously politically stupid, as he moved to vote the School Board on which he sits a big fat raise.

Lohr, along with Fulk, voted to implement an illegal weapons policy citing Article 8, Section 7 of Virginia's Constitution as the citing authority. Then knowing no such authority existed both went whining to Weatherholtz to patch a Virginia statute "perhaps" giving local school boards the authority to enact their own weapons policies.

At least we (I assume you're refering to we libertarians who live within the Republican Party who without any answers from Lohr about some issues -- INCLUDING HIS MEETING ATTENDANCE -- have no choice but to support Lowell) know that Lowell has more than a semblence of a personality and also a sense of good will for all Valley residents.

While I don't agree with every view of Lowell's, I'm not sure that Lohr has an original thought of his own. It's particularly ironic that Bill Gamble, a Republican on his own School Board, wrote the DNR in support of Lowell -- not Lohr.

At 3:35 PM, Blogger David Briggman said...

I'd also want to know why, under Lohr's reign as Chairman of the Rockingham County School Board, the minutes to the School Board meetings are not being posted so that Rockingham County residents could read what these guys are doing within their little feifdom?

At 10:11 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gamble a Republican?? I'd say that Birggman's been smokin' some of that Libertarian good stuff!!!

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