Virginia House of Delegates 2005 Elections

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Monday, June 20, 2005

41st District Update

Outlook: Toss Up

This one has gotten stranger.

First of all, former Indy candidate/Dillard challenger Michael Golden is now the owner of Jim Dillard's Republican nomination by slamming former Dillard primary challenger Bill Finerfrock. The results were:

Michael Golden 2,359 (73.6%)
Bill Finerfrock 848 (26.4%)

Golden, who was supported in the primary by both Senators Cuccinelli and O'Brien will now face party switching Dillard aide David Marsden in the general election.

Here's what we have heard.

Local Democrats have still not united around Marsden. Anyone who knows the 41st district will be surprised to see local school board member Cathy Belter who was pushed out of running is still missing from Marsden's endorsements. We understand divisions from the June primaries- but it has been over six months here...

We also received an email from another Springfield Democrat telling us that Marsden was having an event this week (maybe it was last week) with Governor Mark Warner up in McLean. As this local Democrat wrote "Is he too embarrassed of us to have an event within 10 miles of the district? The Governor can't come here to campaign?"

Meanwhile Golden has his own problems.

His status as one of only two VCAP candidates left has given Marsden almost automatic endorsements from teachers, firefighters and most other groups that endorse.

Also according to one local GOPer Marsden has been going door to door telling Republicans that he worked for Gilmore and is leaving out the part about running as a Democrat. Since these would otherwise be automatic Golden votes it does not help him to have to be reeducating his base on who the GOP nominee is. Great strategy by Marsden.

Finally Marsden has outraised Golden by almost $12,000 (87-75) but has a $33,000 cash on hand advantage as of June 1st because of the Republican primary that has probably gotten even greater since then.

On the other hand, Golden was out getting high visibility during the primary with that money, so it wasn't totally wasted.

For now, this district which voted almost identical to Virginia for Governor and Lt. Governor in 2001, and went for President Bush by less than one percentage point is a total tossup.

In the 37th we called it "Crypt Skeleton vs. Opie". Here on the comments a month ago someone compared Marsden to "Lurch" from the Addams Family. We'll go with that. So what about Michael Golden... We got it!

The 41st is "Lurch vs. Mary Tyler Moore". Do you agree?


At 9:50 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

hahahaha Golden really DOES look like Mary Tyler Moore!!!!!!

At 9:59 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

NO NO NO! Have you seen the new Batman Movie? Michael Golden looks EXACTLY like the Scarecrow from Batman (Cillian Murphy). Here's a picture:

The Scarecrow

Throughout the movie, I was thinking to myself, "Who does that guy look like?" I finally figured it out: Michael Golden.

At 10:06 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Check out the photos on his site and you'll see the resemblence:


At 10:09 AM, Blogger Not Mark Rozell said...

Here we go with the toss-ups again. I think the 45th will also be a toss-up....Englin's got pretty strong competition from his wife.

At 11:06 AM, Blogger Not Larry Sabato said...

Wow!!!! That is totally him.

At 11:08 AM, Anonymous Ted Baxter said...

But can Golden turn the world on with his smile and make a nothing day seem worthwhile? I doubt it.

At 1:09 PM, Blogger Depressed Constituent of Sen. Russ Potts said...

The real question is how will the dems in Fairfax react when they find out that Marsden volunteered in support of Ken Cuccinelli????

At 2:07 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You're a right winger, and we all know what you're trying to do. But it's going to backfire. You'll have Republicans voting for Marsden and he'll win in a rout.

At 2:12 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Republicans will vote for him b/c he helped the Cooch... and the Dems will stick with him also?

At 2:54 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

NO. The democrats won't find out.

At 2:57 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...


At 2:59 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

ha ha. you can laugh, but it's probably. Marsden tells Republicans "I worked for Gilmore". Then he just campaigns as a regular dem to democrats.

You have a few wack activists who are pissed (trouble with tribbetts, for example) but other than that people vote with the Kaine ticket.

At 3:12 PM, Anonymous The Colonel said...

You know one thing I have give credit to the Republicans for is that when a Democrat decides to become a Republican they are welcomed to the GOP with open arms. When a Republicans decides to switch sides it seems alot of Democrats look down their nose at them and say you must prove you are worthy to be one of us. This to me is crazy. Democrats are the minority party, to be the majority again they will have to reach out to Republicans and bring them in. Looking at this race the Democrats should throw their arms around Marsden and bust their asses to get him elected. If they blow this chance it will be alot harder to get rid of Golden when he is an incumbent.

At 4:09 PM, Anonymous ben tribbett said...

I love getting attacked anonymously on these blogs!

FYI to everyone: When I ran, my contributors were almost all Dem activists in the district. Here's a hint on unity... I dropped out 3 months ago and NONE of them have yet to show up on a Marsden report.

I'll leave it at that.

At 4:12 PM, Blogger Depressed Constituent of Sen. Russ Potts said...

You think this is a joke? Marsden did work polls for Cuccinelli. I don't think this will go over well with the grass-roots dems to find out that one of their own candidates found it within his comfort zone to campaign for not just a Republican, but one of those, you know, "flat-earthers" as Barnie Day as so fond of saying.

At 4:29 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

last commenter:

Actually, Ken Cuccinelli is a spineless hateful goatman.

At 4:30 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ben Tribbett -

Get over it an jump on the Marsden bandwagon. Unless you want Michael Golden in office in Fairfax County (instead of Bumdiddily, Alabama, where people of his ideology usually are elected).

At 4:46 PM, Blogger Depressed Constituent of Sen. Russ Potts said...

Hmmm... Bumdiddily. Is that any relation to Bumdiddily, Massachusetts where you can find such intellectual giants as Teddy "hiccup" Kennedy and Barney "I didn't know about the prostitutes in my house" Frank?

At 6:06 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does anyone know any Republicans in NOVA who still like Gilmore?

At 7:07 PM, Anonymous TLM said...

Hey, lay off of Barney Frank. He's the only male Dem in Congress with any balls...

Not to beat a dead horse, but maybe some Dems are suspicious of ex-GOPs the same way we are suspicious of ex-gays. There is no such thing! But hey, sometimes you have to swallow what you're fed. Dems will hold their noses and vote the ticket..what choice is there?!

At 12:20 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ben Tribbett was a terrible candidate. No Dems in the Burke Area would support him either, seriously! Here's a guy who almost got run out of the Democratic Party. His campaign was a laughing stock in Fairfax County.

At 1:06 PM, Anonymous Ben Tribbett said...

If no Dems supported me why is most of the committee in the 41st on my financial report?

At 1:34 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Total Raised - $0. Withdrew from Race. Nice Work!!!!!

By the way, your name is all over Chap Petersen's report for LG, the word in VA is that you screwed up that campaign and they've been trying to recover since. If Marsden is Lurch, then Tribbett is Eegore!!

At 2:06 PM, Anonymous Ben Tribbett said...

Contact SBE. I emailed VPAP, that is an error they had from when they thought I was an Indepdendant candidate in June rather than a Dem in February. Dont know how they screwed that up.

At 2:31 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank You Eeegore. With the overwhelming support you got from the Burke Democrats, it must of been hard to drop out as the frontrunner :-() NLS, I'm on it. I think we may have a scandal in the 41st. Developing....

At 2:35 PM, Anonymous Ben Tribbett said...

NLS, I prefer Shrek. Can I please get that name instead of Eogore?

At 2:43 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ben Jones for Congress - Loss
Petersen for Lt. Gov - Loss & Fired.

What's Next?

At 2:53 PM, Anonymous Ben Tribbett said...

Put your name on it, and I will be happy to respond.

At 3:28 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Someone is feeling the heat!

At 4:04 PM, Anonymous Ben Tribbett said...

lol. Yes you have ruined my day. LOL.

Seriously, there are PLENTY of things you can attack me for. PLENTY. Just pick one that is based in fact please.

I believe Chap did a newsletter thanking me when I left his campaign for another job.... and he went from frontrunner to alsoran after I left. I don't think the critique is deserved there.

And please, feel free to blame me for the Cooter loss. I will take all the blame for that. Seriously. Horrible Campaign. I admit it.

At 4:16 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

haha. Every Democratic Committee member I've talked to has said you screwed that campaign up. And please, lets deal in fact, you were FIRED.

At 4:18 PM, Anonymous Ben Tribbett said...


At 11:55 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ben Tribett:

I'm one of the people that anomymously criticizes you. And you know what? Your candor has made me reconsider. I'm sorry. You're a nice guy, I'm sure...

But please. Stop attacking moderate Democrats. We need to accept as many moderates as we can win in in 05.

At 9:52 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Very Nice Post Ben. Glad you can say nice things about yourself. Very Clever.

At 1:41 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...


I just looked at your two filings, and it looks like all of your money came from you and your mom--with a bunch of in-kind contributions from you and your mom. Are those the only "Democratic activists" in the 41st?
Even your extended family members wouldn't write you checks over $100.
You don't even live in Virginia anymore, yet you continue to attack Virginia Democratic nominees. Then again, that's been your track-record for quite a while.
Time to get involved in the Nevada Democratic Party and try to screw things up there too.

At 5:48 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've worked on alot of Dem Races in Fairfax and trust me, Ben Tribbett is not representative of the caliber of people we have working on Dem campaigns. For example, all the great people who worked on Englin's campaign.

Tribbett is part of the old top down anti-grassroots hiearchy that has destroyed campaigns in the past. LoL... We've moved past him.

At 10:55 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

NLS--you might want to update. Looks like Cathy Belter is indeed on the list of endorsements.

Golden is very very far right--he accepted the endorsement in 2003 from the Phylis Schlafly's Eagle PAC. I'm sure come November, every Democrat and a great many mainstream Jim Dillard Republicans will vote for Marsden.

At 2:34 AM, Anonymous Ben Tribbett said...

Thanks for letting me know VPAP screwed up listing my report. I'll get in touch with them and get them to load it correctly, so you can bash me for what it actually said!

The only thing correct on there was this page:

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