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Monday, May 30, 2005

45th District- Washington Post Editorial

We can not remember the last time the Post did an editorial this long in a primary for a Delegate seat. It's very strange especially on Memorial Day, a major day for the Editorial Page. Even more strange was the ink it got for not actually endorsing any candidate.

Any ideas who pulled strings here? Is an Editorial Board member in the 45th or did a candidate know somebody? If it's a candidate, Jim Lay is the obvious guess for planting it, we have seen no other article give him so much credibility.

Our feeling on it is that it was planted, and is going towards Lay's outreach to Republicans that we reported on earlier. This may be a strongly Democratic district, but if Lay can get Republicans to crossover he may have an outside shot.

25 Comments:

At 12:18 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jim Lay's a good guy, a good candidate, and would make a fine Delegate. But it's sad that this story was written with such obvious bias...

 
At 1:19 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree.

Lay must have a very, very, good buddy on the editorial board.

 
At 3:42 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Interesting that NotLarry has joined the baying of the conspiracy hounds. It's pretty funny that they think any of these six Democrats -- let alone Jim Lay, who's a political nobody -- would have sway with the Post editorial board.

Check it out, here's how editorial boards work: They start from scratch, having heard of none of the candidates. They interview all of them, review their web sites and campaign materials and then make a straight-forward decision about who seems to have the best, most serious and most thoughtful take on events.

You can believe that -- which has the added benefit of being true -- or you can revel in thrilling conspiracy stories. Your choice.

 
At 3:53 PM, Anonymous Not Mark Rozell said...

I gotta agree with NLS on this one. Something is going on behind the scenes here. There is no other reason they would give so much space to this HOD race on a major holiday. It's not just who got the ink that has everyone thinking conspiracy - it's also why they chose to cover this race on this day. As local races go, it's pretty inconsequential. I'm surprised they didn't use the space to endorse one of the six GOP challengers or incumbents.

Oh well, the Post generally loses its way once it gets past the Beltway anyway.

 
At 4:56 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

3:42 anonymous: Editorial Boards are made up of people. People who know other people. Like, say, wives of second tier candidates in HOD. There's no conspiracy necessary - just an obvious fishy smell and a little bit of sluething to find the source of the stink.

 
At 5:17 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why do the conspiracy hounds think Memorial Day weekend is a key day for newspapers? In fact, newspaper readership plummets over long weekends because so many people are out of town and suspend their subscriptions; plus newsstand sales fall to zero.

If you know something about newspapers, you know the Post ran that editorial over the holiday weekend because it was a LESS significant issue, not more.

 
At 6:22 PM, Blogger Not Larry Sabato said...

Check it out, here's how editorial boards work: They start from scratch, having heard of none of the candidates. They interview all of them, review their web sites and campaign materials and then make a straight-forward decision about who seems to have the best, most serious and most thoughtful take on events.

Bull. The Post rarely interviews candidates and the Editorial Board of the paper certainly does not sit down with every candidate in a primary for House of Delegates in Virginia.

 
At 6:40 PM, Blogger Not Larry Sabato said...

Last annon- Excellent point. I was thinking along the lines of how a Sunday paper kind of thing. Your point is well taken

 
At 10:47 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not Larry: Sorry, you're flat wrong. I know for a fact that The Post has interviewed every single candidate in the statewide primaries this season, and regularly interviews or is in touch with candidates for the House in Northern Virginia.

An open seat primary that is tantamount to an election (as in the Democratic primary in the 45th House District) is exactly the kind of race where The Post (and plenty of other newspapers that care about local issues) would make its preferences known.

 
At 11:21 AM, Blogger Not Larry Sabato said...

I meant for the House. The Post Board does not sit down with House candidates. Nor does the full board sit down with statewides. It's more like a rep(s) from the Editorial Board, and some reporters. It's very different from sitting down with the R-TD or the VP

 
At 11:36 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think the Post's full editorial board does sit down with all the statewide primary candidates. But it's a silly argument. Instead of cluttering the blogosphere, why not just call them and ask? It's a newspaper, not the damn CIA. I bet they'll tell you.

 
At 11:38 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not Larry: I think the Post's full editorial board does indeed interview all the statewide primary candidates. But it's a silly argument. Why not just call the Post and ask. It's a newspaper, not the damn CIA. I bet they'll tell you.

 
At 12:06 PM, Anonymous Not Wash Post said...

As someone who knows who NLS is, you are stupid for challenging him on this.

Not Wash Post

 
At 2:13 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Call the Post. Get the answer. I'll bet you money, any amount you like.

 
At 2:19 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

By the way, as someone who knows the Post, you're stupid for challenging me on this.

 
At 2:44 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just called. They won't say, other than you are wrong

 
At 2:58 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

As someone who works very closely with one of the candidates in the 45th, I can tell you what the Post process was: a five minute phone call on Friday afternoon. That's it.

NLS - you can track the IP address on this and vouch that I am in a position to indicate this definitively (but please keep me anonymous).

 
At 4:20 PM, Blogger Not Larry Sabato said...

Yes, you are credible. How many editors were on the call- and how many were local reporters that would "report back" to the editorial board?

 
At 4:30 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

One editor. No reporters.

 
At 4:38 PM, Blogger Not Larry Sabato said...

Nice. That's actually better than normal for them. Congrats.

 
At 11:30 PM, Blogger Shayna Englin said...

I keep meaning to post this and forgetting.

Jim Lay and his family are terrific; David and I look forward to getting our families together after June 14th.

He's not the right Delegate for this very progressive district, but Jim's a good man, a fine Democrat, and has conducted himself 100% honorably throughout the campaign.

There's been a fair amount of ugliness, and Jim's had no part of any of it. For that he's got my respect, and David and I look forward to working with him in the months and years to come toward a better future for all of our kids.

 
At 1:03 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Those Englins are a class act.

 
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