Virginia House of Delegates 2005 Elections

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Monday, May 30, 2005

15 Days Away- Open Thread

Likely voters are finally focused on these primary campaigns. This weekend and next weekend most voters will start to make their final decision.

What are you seeing on the ground in your area? Mail? Any personal calls or visits from a candidate or volunteer this weekend? Anyone going negative?

This thread is wide open for your citizen reporting!

90 Comments:

At 11:10 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Viva Vienna Report:

Republican candidates Ed Robinson and Jim Hyland were out attacking each other. Most of the voters were mad at both of them for making a street festival a negative campaign zone.

Steve Shannon fared no better. I watched a bunch of people tell him how unhappy they were on the MetroWest Development at Vienna Metro. Steve's money people are on the opposite side of his constituents there, so he's screwed on that. Also, the Democratic workers were all bitching about him being and supporting a pro-lifer (Chap!!)

JeanneMarie was a big winner with her very short shorts. She continues to be the best looking "40 something" I know.

Byrne and Connaughton were both there. Connaughton stood next to Tom Davis the whole thime... and got a great reaction, I was suprised how many people knew who he was. Byrne was getting a good reaction too, and I was suprised to hear some Republican women come up and tell Leslie they wanted a woman LG and were crossing over for her.

 
At 3:24 PM, Blogger not paul goldman said...

Got a Baskerville piece in the mail...no other Statewide mail yet...Law has matched if not surpasses Jen in the sign wars in the 71st...I am not sure sign wars mean anything but they are fun...Miles in the 74th has sent two mailers...the first one was poorly done...the second one was better...McEachin has sent a mail piece out..it was well done..Lambet has made a robo call for Miles...McEachin has done two robo calls...the pace is picking up....

 
At 4:16 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

NLS, report from the 45th. Englin's collapse is continuing. His former supporters are taking signs OUT of the yards after the Moran scandel, the Van Landingham scandel and the Post scandel. What scandel will hit next? Looks like a one way showdown between Garvey and Garvey!

 
At 4:18 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Chap isn't pro-life. His abortion stance is the exact same as John Kerry's and many other Dems. Sometimes Democratic politicians don't understand what it means to be pro-choice. They personally would not choose to have an abortion for themselves and would counsel against it but they think the decision should be up to the woman and the government should not take that option away. They just feel awkward talking about it because they try to play both sides. But Chap is definitely pro-choice and would not take a woman's right away.

 
At 5:33 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

4:16 Anonymous: you're clearly not in the 45th district. And you have no idea what you are talking about. Since when has the Post editorial mattered? And even if it did, it relegated Libby to second place, behind Jim Lay, of all people.

 
At 5:39 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

anonymous 4:16 -

it's actually "scandal". And you're clearly from goodbyejim

 
At 5:40 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

anon-45th, have specific yards or at least streets as evidence of your so called englin collapse? it seems everyday I find a new Englin sign in someone's yard [and 20 new signs from the other campaigns in every median, all of which have confirmed their support for their candidates]

tell the truth, you work for libby and are struggling to find some sign of weakness to help you with your own insecurities.

if englin is collapsing, then dick hobson is surging.

 
At 5:54 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Libby!

 
At 6:54 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The GOP had a good presence today (Monday) at Viva Vienna. There was a general R booth, one for Senator Devolites-Davis, booths for Hyland and Robinson in the 35th Delegate race, and one for Jerry Kilgore.

The Kilgore people had a very nice contingent to help Jerry shake hands and meet voters. Jerry showed up before noon and really pressed the flesh. The Kilgore volunteers were all young 20-somethings. Nice to see those fresh faces involved in politics. Kaine's supporters were all middle-aged folks with a few union-types tossed in.

Robinson's folks had yellow balloons inside clear ones. Cool technique that wowed the kids. Let us see if Ed wows voters in two weeks!

 
At 8:38 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It looks like David's Albo's days are numbered...

 
At 1:04 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah Albo's days a re numbered -- that is, the days until he is re-elected and returns to the House!

 
At 2:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

A scandal is the chair of Arlington School Board utterly mismanaging the Washington-Lee high school building project. I can't wait for Laura to spend Ed Spoden's money to hit Libby with that one.

Adam Ebbin lost the battle for endorsements in the 2003 primary and is now Delegate Ebbin. Endorsements - especially anemic non-endorsements like the Post editorial and MVL - don't make up for a complete lack of message, organization, vision, and a compelling candidate.

 
At 2:11 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"showdown between Garvey and Garvey"

Even her supporters think she's two-faced. Just the kind of strong leader the 45th needs in Richmond.

 
At 10:09 AM, Anonymous Terry M said...

I worked the Vienna festival in the Equality Fairfax (GLBT folks) booth. Most people were friendly. Steve Shannon even stopped by..still trying to mend fences.

Thought it was funny that Tom Davis and his wife had separate booths just a few feet away from each other....

Received a quick and dirty flyer in my door on Thursday from Chap's folks slamming Leslie Byrne, calling her a loser and a tax raiser...essentially asking Dems to think twice about her. Drop was very selective and seemed to be targeted at clear Dems as only two were left on my street and I know my neighbors leanings...Hummer precinct in Mason district.

 
At 11:21 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Chap is pro-choice? Fat chance! He won't say either way because he enjoys the fence as the only way to not alienate voters, but if he was solidly pro-choice he wouldn't have been targeted by Planned Parenthood for lobbying efforts in the last GA session.

 
At 12:13 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

42nd district posters:

Wow, it looked like Greg Werkheiser had taken the clear lead after your first post and this race should be switched to leans Dem. But then the Albo guy posted and now it's back to leans Repub. So many momentum changes, so little time.

In all seriousness, as a Republican it disturbs me how little effort Dave is putting into this seat. We can count on him as a pro-family/pro-taxpayer vote, unlike some of his "moderate" RINO cohorts.

 
At 12:22 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

report from a school board meeting at w. springfield high school last week (800 people attended):

Albo attended, didn't bring lit or volunteers but stayed until the end

Werkheiser attended and brought 8 volunteers with lit and stayed well past the end

Marsden attended with his campaign manager and brought lit and stayed well past the end

Golden stood outside as people entered, handed out lit, then left.

 
At 2:37 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

71st District update....

I am doing an about-face here and buying into not paul goldman's assesment of Law's momentum. I had previously made the case that McClellan had the right profile among voters in the more affluent--and heavier voting-- precincts in the district (Northside, Fan). However, her tactics have mystified me, as she has failed to capitalize on this advantage.

A mailer on solving traffic problems? No one in the district lives farther than 10 minutes away from the Capitol, and they don't need to get on the interstate at all to conduct daily business. High speed rail? Does she have money to waste on this ineffective message?

Law's message in the one mailer he has sent was: I'll stand with the mayor to clean up city government. Performing arts center aside, this is very effective and trumps anything we've learned about McClellan's personal story.

Law signs are now starting to pop up in these neighborhoods where they hadn't been in his previous races...

Also rec'd the Baskerville piece. Too many words, no focus. Looks like something she sent out when she was running for council.

 
At 2:40 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Additions/corrections on the WSHS Pyramid meeting:

Albo left before the end.

Werkheiser was there the entire time--very well organized, but his handout had a hilarious typo--"See my record of leadership on the back of this sheet"...on a one-sided flyer.

Marsden came a little after the start and stayed outside for most of the time handing out lit.

Golden's wife came early and was in line to speak (don't know if she did). Golden came late and spent most of his time outside handed out lit to people leaving, but left before the mass exodus.

Werkheiser definitely had the best group and treated it like a BTSN. If not for the printing gaffe, would have been great overall (although I question the effectiveness of the event from a campaigning perspective). It was funny hearing Marsden name-drop Republicans.

Interestingly, between 1/3 and 1/2 of the people there were from Loudoun and other areas that benefited from the study and boundary changes (i.e., they opposed the WSHS Pyramid group). It was tough for the candidates and their workers to weed out their constituents.

 
At 2:44 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

2:40 edit:

Oops--meant Lorton, not Loudoun.

 
At 3:43 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The lit I picked up had both sides - there may have been a few screwed up print outs in the stack though...cursed printers.

 
At 4:13 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

the best part about the werkheiser lit is that it was cheap (made of colored printer paper) and yet really attractive (graphics, presentation, etc.) he's not wasting money, apparently.

 
At 5:36 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

54th Update - Expect a big win in the challeneger category June 14th.

 
At 5:55 PM, Blogger Not Larry Sabato said...

It sounds like a good Werkheiser piece. Can you scan and email to me?

 
At 6:11 PM, Blogger Not Larry Sabato said...

Here's what is interesting about that WSHS meeting. As you noted it takes in two house districts, 41st and 42nd. Well Werkheiser and Albo also have Lorton so they got a lot of people from their area. The 41st people there were all WS, not Lorton (it goes east from there to neighborhoods that wouldn't care). My sources tell me the Belle of the West Spring. side of this dispute is local School Board member Cathy Belter....

She's not yet endorsed Marsden (see her missing on the website) and is supporting Werkheiser strongly. Well, in a funny twist, the people angry with her are all Werkheiser's and the people thrilled with her are in the 41st.

Very ironic (and funny)

 
At 6:25 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

i talked to several people at that event and they said they were voting against all incumbents next year. they were sooooo pissed about management of school issues.

 
At 6:59 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The people pissed off are in Lorton. Albo is their only voice at any level of government

 
At 8:32 AM, Blogger not paul goldman said...

I see where Baskerville picked up some NOVA endorsements...those folks must have an issue with both Byrne and Chap....got a piece from one of her supporters last night...a former Richmond city councilman and his wife who have moved to NOVA...it was a one page letter promoting Baskerville and urging the reader to get involved and send money

 
At 9:56 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Albo a voice for Lorton? What?

First of all, mant Lorton people just moved there and don't even know who Albo is.

Second of all - do you think the Lorton people are happy with the incumbent right now? After dealing with traffic on 95 and route 1 for more than a decade?

Albo tried to take credit for the South County school and you can bet that pissed ALOT of people off - Republicans and Democrats - who fought hard at the local level for that school.

Albo did absolutely JACK to bring that school to South County. JACK.

 
At 12:30 PM, Anonymous Not Mark Rozell said...

I don't know why the Anonymous contingent is so hung up on how long each candidate stayed at the School Board meeting. Experience tells me to keep an eye on the guy who leaves early and watch which way he turns on his way out. He probably knows about another event the rest of them missed.

If I were Werkheiser or Albo, I would not be putting so much time into the school issue. It's likely to come back and bite both of them.

 
At 12:58 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't think anybody was putting time "on the school issue". I think they all jsut realized that this was a large gathering of civic engaged people whom they could give lit to.

 
At 1:22 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous 9:56am: to say Albo "did JACK" for the South County school is just wrong. As someone personally involved in that, I can tell you that Dave Albo worked very hard, as did everyone else. In fact, he was the one who brought that idea to everyone's attention!

Although, I admit, I wasn't there. Did Albo claim sole credit?

 
At 2:15 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, he did. He's been bragging about it in his literature for a while. I know people who were personally involved who are a bit ticked about Albo taking credit/stepping in late and saying "I saved the day!"

The fact is, this school is already full. It's going to start out overcrowded, because of lack of planning and lack of state support in Fairfax. What has Albo done to reduce crowding in Fairfax County schools, besides vote against (and ridicule) a budget that brought untold millions to our schools?

And what about when he went PSYCHO on the local PTA for trying to sell brownies at polling places? Albo cares about schools? Right.

Albo's very focused on his criminal legislation up there at GA. And that's fine. He's a former prosecutor and he's involved in criminal law of some sort in a private practice, I think. But schools are not on his radar and haven't ever been.

 
At 2:23 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not Mark Rozell:

I was also at that event, and the point is not to take some side on a controversial school board issue...the point is to attend an event and LISTEN while giving out your campaign lit and meeting politically active voters. The 3rd to last anon struck it on the head.

Events like that one occur merely 3-4 times per year. Very rarely do you see that many people out at a local event like this...and the people who were there are passionate about these issues. It's a great time for a candidate to walk around, listen to concerns, and meet influential citizens. There's nothing risky about it...particularly if all candidates show up.

As for Golden leaving early - it was most likely past his bed time...

 
At 5:16 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You dems are a laugh a minute. Past Golden's bedtime. That's clever!

I haven't enjoyed such a hearty guffaw since I saw Marsden's Kinko's-grade palmcard: "Lower property taxes." I wonder if Kate and Gerry approve? The word "Democrat," of course, is conspicuously absent.

You guys are too rich. We're laughing with you...really.

 
At 6:19 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well...he's only 24, right?

 
At 6:29 PM, Blogger Not Larry Sabato said...

He's 31.

 
At 6:29 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I heard Golden's still attending GMU and is College GOP chair.

 
At 6:39 PM, Blogger Not Larry Sabato said...

Why would he attend GMU? He's a lawyer who went to the best HS in America, and two of the best colleges. I don't understand the cracks on his background?

 
At 8:17 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fear.

 
At 9:48 PM, Anonymous NoVA Scout said...

I rather clumsily reported on this over at John Behan's place (it was appropo of nothing in that location), but I am curious so will try here whree people are folowing the HD races closely.

I noticed in and around Fairfax City a number of residences that had yard signs for both Jim Kaplan and for Chap Peterson (!)

What's this all about? Who's driving and who's along for the ride? There may be very little to it, but it did catch my attention.

any ideas?

 
At 4:07 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's funny that Albo can present an idea which eventually gets a school built in his district, and the education people are still pissed!

 
At 9:43 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh give me a break. Albo didn't come up with that idea. You're lying.

 
At 10:15 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not a lie, it's true. Albo brought that idea to everyone's attention. It was something Rhode Island had done sucessfully so they tried it in Virginia. It was actually Jack Rust and Dave Albo that presented the idea to their constituents. Rust's constituency turned the idea down. Albo's constituency jumped on the idea and then they worked hard to make sure it happened. Now, counties throughout the state are following their lead.

 
At 11:52 AM, Anonymous Ben Tribbett said...

The difference from Jack's proposal for his district, and Dave's was Dave was building a new school and Jack's already existed. With it already existing, it was a proposal to privatize the school in order to renovate it. It went over better where it was going to be built in Albo's district. Albo can take a lot of credit for it, but people may not be as happy with this in 30 years.

 
At 2:04 PM, Anonymous Not Mark Rozell said...

Hey NLS, careful with the GMU cracks! That's near and dear to this man's heart!

Even though I don't eat mac and cheese so I can give a million bucks to my school, I still have that GMU spirit (at least I do until a better offer comes along).

 
At 2:23 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ben, why don't you think people will be happy with the plan in 30 years?

 
At 2:37 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The school will open overcrowded. Great planning, Dave.

 
At 4:28 PM, Anonymous Not Mark Rozell said...

Every school in Fairfax County opens overcrowded. But you all probably aren't old enough to remember Fairfax's last school-building kick. When the number of students trailed off, the County was forced to shutter several schools or turn them into community centers. The number of students in a school system is often cyclical. This boom will end too, and hopefully Fairfax will not be left with a bunch of buildings it can't use.

 
At 4:34 PM, Anonymous Ben Tribbett said...

A few things

a) the school opening overcrowded is the sole fault of the school board who drew the boundary lines.

b) The reason this may not be good in 30 years is we won't own the property. The devloper could continue to lease to the schools at a higher cost or lease elsewhere.

c) not mark rozell makes the only good point about point b, which is if the students go down the school may not be needed when the lease is up and so it may turn out to be a perfect deal for Fairfax. Come check around 2040. :)

 
At 4:51 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

So...let me get this straight.

Ft. Belvoir adds 18k jobs.

And you think schools are going to get LESS CROWDED?!?!?!

This is exactly the type of moronic Republican pie in the sky logic that bankrupted the state in the 2000.

You right-wingers keep patting each other on the back. You've done a great job expousing your stupid ideology!

 
At 4:51 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

espousing. excuse me.

 
At 6:50 PM, Anonymous Not Mark Rozell said...

Far be it from me to defend Republican party, but I think it was the recession bankrupted the state. In all fairness, the car tax would have gotten them if they had not gotten a handle on it, but that does not go back quite as far as 2000. That budget crisis was pure economic downturn. Look at what happened this year when the economy suddenly rebounded: instant $1 billion surplus.

It's also not at all clear that moving jobs from Arlington to Fort Belvoir will have much impact on the school system. Gerry Connolly keeps whining about this, but I'd like to see some projected travel patterns. Seems to me that most of those jobs are being moved within the region. This may well affect traffic patterns, but I've seen no evidence which would lead me to believe that housing patterns would be affected to any large degree.

 
At 9:05 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The budget shortfalls and surplus were solely due to the economic recession and recovery? You've got to be kidding. First of all, economic evidence and reporting out this weeks shows that this economic "recovery" is barely that, in no way is it substantial enough to account for surpluses in the budget. The budget surpluses and shortfalls are due in large part (there is some accreditation due to the economy, though not the majority) to the budgetary priorites of Governors Gilmore and Warner. Governor Gilmore chose to cut car taxes and eat up the previous budget surplus in a regressive tax plan rather than reinvesting in education and infrastructure. On the other hand, Governor Warner, who was left in a fiscally tight position by Gilmore's irresponsibility (including eliminating education from the budget for a fiscal year because his tax cut didn't turn out at planned) was faced with tough choices that resulted in difficult budget cuts to areas such as higher education. However, these budget cuts (coupled with at least a stabilization in the economic situation, not really a recovery) and responsible fiscal management led to the budget surplus which we are now experiencing which any smart executive would reinvest in the areas which have been sufferering from underfunding thanks to the poor policies of Jim Gilmore.

 
At 9:49 PM, Anonymous TheScandel said...

I would really be interested in talking further with the anonymous poster about the Englin collapse. I am a volunteer for the Englin campaign, and I can assure you we have yet to catch wind of this catastrophic downfall of David Englin. Perhaps the anonymous poster should read an excellent piece about our campaign in the Mount Vernon Voice and rethink his/her position on the matter. If these alleged scandAls are affecting us, we haven't learned of it.

 
At 7:43 AM, Anonymous Not Mark Rozell said...

The candidate and his team are always the last to know. :)

 
At 7:52 AM, Anonymous Not Mark Rozell said...

"Budget" anonymous - look carefully at what I said. The first budget crisis in 2001 was purely a recession issue. If revenues had held steady, the budget would have been fine. But they trailed off (actually, if memory serves, they did not increase as much as projected).

You are correct that the car tax relief plan was poorly implemented. For several years, it was the single largest increase in spending in the Commonwealth's budget. You can't keep that up forever, no matter how much you pray for steady revenues.

Eliminating the car tax was a great political issue and perhaps a good policy goal. But to make car tax relief a state government expenditure defies logic. I agree with you that we were headed for disaster, but it wasn't quite here in 2001, despite Mark Warner's claims to the contrary. To borrow a much-overused phrase, it was the economy, stupid.

Okay, NLS, I'll get back on-topic now. :)

 
At 8:13 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

not mark rozell:

The answer is somewhere in between...

Gilmore handed Warner a budget full of lies and holes. The car tax projections were way off.

Add in the fact that tax revenues were diving, and BAM you've got a big deficit.

Now with Warner - the budget surplus is caused by three things:

1. Obviously the tax increase
2. Heavy spending by the feds in NOVA after 9-11
3. A BOOMING Virginia economy.

Sorry anonymous poster - don't believe the Democratic spin. The Virginia economy is booming like almost never before right now. The unemployment rate is something approaching 1% in NOVA right now.

Don't give me that Leslie Byrne spin about how "we're all working harder and working 3 jobs a piece". That's bull. The economy is fine, so quite whining.

As for Ft. Belvoir and 18k jobs. Not Mark Rozell, it's hard for anyone to say that 18k jobs moved into an outer suburb area won't affect housing and traffic.

Do you really think these jobs are all moving in from Alexandria? Honestly? That's not even close to true. Do you know how many cars take route 1 every morning? It's probably around 8k or so. And it's already snarled. Add in 18k cars...and ummm....Lorton, we've got a problem.

 
At 9:16 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good points. But one correction: the vast majority of the surplus was pre-tax hike.

 
At 9:55 AM, Anonymous Not Mark Rozell said...

My issue is with housing, not traffic. There will definitely be traffic impacts - although again - someone needs to do a traffic impact study to see what traffic will go where. Lots of defense employees live in Prince William County. Now, instead of going all the way up I-95/I-395 they'll get off on local roads. And you are right, Belvoir is not set up to handle that kind of traffic influx.

My quarrel is with the statement that everyone whose job moves to Fort Belvoir is suddenly going to move to a new home in Lorton, Burke, or Kingstowne and overcrowd the schools. I don't buy that argument for two reasons. First, the large majority of these jobs are moving around within the region, meaning most people will choose to commute from where they are. Second, there are not that many federal defense employees who can afford the new home prices these days in Lorton, West Springfield, Pohick, etc. Any new houses that go up in that area are well over the $500K mark. That will push any employees who relocate into the Woodbridge area, despite the I-95 commute.

This is why I say that you will not see that much impact on the schools (there will be some, to be sure). Besides, how could Albo or any local official have foretold this?

 
At 9:55 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The fact is that the infrastructure in NOVA is some of the worst in the state (in comparison to needs).

The blame for that rests on the shoulders of the incumbents. Particularly the ones in the majority party.

 
At 10:04 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you are going to blame incumbents for inadequate infrastructure, you should focus on the majority party that should have made the forward-thinking decisions 10 years ago. Which party was that, again?

 
At 10:05 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You have to look at the job Albo's done so far. Pretty poor. Lots of construction projects inexplicably held up. School overcrowding, no thanks to albo, who voted against millions for schools in 04. Property taxes climbing, largely because of unfunded mandates. Gang violence spreading into the district. Do we trust Albo to manage this job growth? Or will he just blame all future problems on immigrants, like usual?

 
At 10:06 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Albo's been there for 12 years...

 
At 10:15 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm not defending Albo--I have plenty of issues with his positions/performance--but the arguments you use to attack him are flawed. When those flaws are identified, you ignore them.

Albo may be partially to blame for nova's infrastructure inadequacies, but many others (and many dems) bear equal or greater responsibility.

 
At 10:19 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Then I agree with you. Sorry about that - incumbents in NOVA in general really haven't had the solutions for the region's infrastructure problems.

But when I see stuff like "abuser fees" I just laugh.

 
At 10:29 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm with you--don't even get me started on abuser fees!

 
At 10:31 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let me add that the Democratic party from 10-20 years ago was lazy, fat, too liberal, and corrupt. But today's Democratic party in VA (or at least some of it's young moderate leaders) are a different breed. Forced, by neccessity, to look at government a new way (reform, cut costs, make tough choices), they're the type of people we need in Richmond.

That's just my opinion.

And Albo represents the new Republican (with an occasional moderate streak). Blame gays. Blame immigrants. Mess with sodomy laws endlessly. Fudge numbers. And use your position in the majority to bring money to your business.

 
At 10:44 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ben,

In regard to your point (b), you've to remember that a county buyout of the property is negotiable, and normally is a nominal amount in a finance lease. In a true lease, the buyout is fair market value, which has certain tax advantages for the owner. In the Albo proposal, the school board would never lose control of the school and would have a nominal purchase price at the end of the term. The term, by the way, could be any that is negotiated, from 5 years to 50 years. That will determine the lease amount and the length of the obligation. In short, it puts the school board in a good position, either way.

Resident Badass

 
At 11:08 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

If the Fairfax County Superviosrs hadn't let development run amok, traffic would never have gotten so bad up here. Gerry Connolly and his cartel are more to blame for local transportation problems than Albo and the other Delegates down in Richmond. Has Connolly ever said no to a new development project? Maybed its a combination of both the Supervisors and the Legislature that people have good jobs and a place to do them, but Gerry could have been smarter about the growth and allowed the infrastructure to be built to support the new jobs.

But here is the one thing I know. South County Fairfax is entirely under construction. Between the new school (which Albo did come up with the idea for!) and the road improvements, things are going to get better. People clamored for those road improvements, and the legislature delivered. Once the mild annoyance of the roadwork is done, South County is going to look, and drive, a while lot better. I blame VDOT for doing it all at once, though.

 
At 11:09 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does anyone honestly think that Fairfax County will have a problem with school UNDERCROWDING any time soon? With big developments occuring all over the place, is that really a possibility? With kids still in trailers, is that really a possibility?

 
At 11:11 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah, South County's gonna have smooth traffic with 18k new jobs coming. Right.

 
At 11:16 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Put it this way, will the Republican leadership allow Albo to lose because it needs to protect another seat or get someone else in? And will the Democratic leadership be willing to sacrifice an incumbent in order to elect Werkheiser?

I've met Werkheiser. He's not worth it.

 
At 11:30 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous 11:09,

Yes. (See Not Mark Rozell's comment about mid way up in this ridiculously long stream of bloggers arguing about completely different points over and over again.)

 
At 11:31 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've met Werkheiser. And he's most certainly worth it. He's one of the most selfless people I've ever met. The guy founded a bipartisan civic leadership institute to teach young people of BOTH PARTIES ethical government and civic responsibility. He's devoted the greater part of his young adult life to serving the community.

He's also one of the better speakers you'll ever see...

You're being a jerk, quite frankly.

 
At 11:40 AM, Blogger Virginia Centrist said...

Hate to jump in here and by the 1000th commenter, but I want to agree with the last guy. Win or lose, Werkheiser is a good guy. I attended one of his youth programs and that sentiment was shared by both Republicans and Democrats who came into contact with him.

 
At 5:45 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Chap Petersen for LG

 
At 7:18 PM, Blogger Elizabeth said...

I got a Laura Mandala piece today that includes a line saying "I'm not related to Nelson Mandela, but some people have said I remind them of him because of my PASSION." (I may have a few words off -- don't have it in front of me.) GAG. What hubris.

 
At 7:28 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

She's a joke.

Here's the piece:
http://www.mandalafordelegate.com/pdf/23647_Issues.1.pdf

 
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